Echo Screen #12: Movie Remakes

Why can't they just leave well enough alone? TMNT, The Karate Kid, The A-Team... they've all been made into movies and they're trying to take our money to see them... again! Today the Clan of the Gray Wolf looks at the crappy movies that have been remade, the crappy movies that are going to be remade, and the awesome movies that no one should ever touch... ever! You hear me George Lucas?!? Why are these movies made? Will they ever stop? Could we resist the temptation to see Scarlett Johansson as Cheetarah? Find out on this episode of the Echo Screen!

In this episode:
 - (0:00) Intro & successful remakes
 - (15:15) Crappy remakes
 - (24:15) What do we want to see remade?
 - (35:00) What do we not want to see remade?

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What, you guys didn't like Indy 4? What Indy can find Moses but not Aliens?

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Okay, I was up with you until you talked about A-team and Mr. T.  I seriously thought...WTF.  Then I remember, you were old enough to remember those days so I'll give you that....but seriously, Mr.T did not make that show great alone.  It's like terminator and Arnold.  yeah thats what HE was remembered for but ther movie isnt remembered because of him.  It's everyhting else really.

Well, eitherway, these are great videos as always and my hats off to you.  Keep em comming.

 

Oh, and christopher loyd would make an excelent Zummi(SP?)

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What about a Back to the Future video game

They did that for Ghostbusters, could they do that for BTTF?

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See, this is why everyone should pay more attention to the CotGW Twitter, Cyco.  :)

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Really?  A back to the future Game?  Thats leads me to question how they intend to view this game (Like as a puzzle, platform, etc).  As for Jurasic Park...well, lets hope they do better than there older games.  I think the SNES is the only good one 9I know of anyway) and it's still not that great.

though,with that aside, these are Movie games....However, they are not movie adaptations and follow along the lines of Ghostbusters where they add to the Cannon.  I could see them being okay at the very least. 

I thought Ghostbusters was gonna be a really bad video game simply on the premise that it was a movie game.  However, as they talked more about it my dislike for the game slowly turned to interest.

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they should make a movie based on the back to the futre game...that shit would really be confusing :P

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Hail to the Echo screen! Very interesting subject, in general I am NOT in favor of remaking movies. Especially when the movie is a classic, I think that is hallowed ground and should not be touched. Remaking 'Back to the Future' would be an absolute crime, absolutely with you guys there!

Conceptually if they are going to remake something, I'd far rather see them make an attempt at taking a crummy movie that had promise. And remake that, but fix everything that went wrong the first time. And as I understand it this flood of remakes coming out of Hollywood is simply because they make $$$. I went to a panel at the Ivy Film Festival at Brown University and they had studio executives talking about this exact subject.

And they admitted it was a numbers game and the upfront cost of marketing a known commodity is way easier than creating buzz and hype for an unknown entity. Same goes for making sequels. As trying to break into the market and capturing the publics attention is challenging. And if its a one and done deal for the studio executive where if they don't make bank right out of the gate its their job. So that stifles the risk taking at a lot of these studios.

Great stuff guys, keep at it!

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Just went on imdb and there was two 'Starship Troopers' sequels??? Did anybody know this??? Boomer, completely agree with you, unbelievably bad film adaptation of the original source material. They also have a listing for 'Thundercats' the movie in production and coming out in 2012... but with no cast information.

Also the orchestra versions of themesongs you guys put in this video were epic! 

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I not opposed to remakes, sometimes to come up with "fresh" ideas you have to go back and see what the classics did right and see if they can be done again. Has Hollywood hoored this ideas? No, of course they haven't, but that doesn't  mean we should stop trying, are we giving up on fission energy because we can't make that work? No.

Granted types of engery and types of entertainment are on different ends of the spectrum, but some remakes have hit the mark, and some haven't

Some classic movies, don't have much in the way of plot to them. The yare confusing, short and seem to climax at the oddest times. I'll use King Kong. No one will argue that King Kong is aclassic film, it was another movie pushing stop motion on top of live action. At the time ,it was just a movei to show off what Hollywood could make, it's not the epic story telling that holds you attention...it's the giant stop-motion ape beating the crap out of the stop-motion t-rex. Pretty basic story to move the movie along. For what King Kong was, thats  all it had to be.

Enter Peter Jackson. Again we see Hollywood trying to show off 3d gci images on top of live-actin images. Sadly because movies have longer run-times the blank spots had to be filled with plot. Jack Black's intentions change so much duringthe movie it's kinda hard to follow what the actual story is. At frist he wants to make this movie that the studio has sunk a bunch of money in, then he changesthe plot of the movie half a dozen times then decides that when he sees a giant ape to try and capture it and bring it back to new york...lol wut?

Anyway, These types of movies are called "Tech-demos", you may remember when I said The Force Unleashed isn't art because it was just a this shiny toy lucas arts wanted to show off what their ai and code could do? Well the same thing is going on with movies, you'll note that most, I won't say all, remakes are being remade from movies that were trying to showcase some new pr imporved style of movie making. Like King Kong, Clash of the Titans, and War of the Worlds. 

I'm sorry to say that there only 2 stories, A guy comes to town or a guy leaves town. Sometimes it's fun to see thes movies remade and maybe it will help directors to think of ways to change the story and tweek this and ad that to make a "new" story for their audience. Take this awesome example: Hunter S. Thompson, one this eras greatest authors, used to sit at this typwriter and type out old classic novels. He did this to , and I'm qouting, "I want to know what it's like to write a great novel."

Fun Fact: Remakes normally fall into a 30 year pattern, so look forward to a remake of Avatar by 2040.

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The worthwhile G.I. Joe remake was Resolute that came out on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim last year.

It was awesome.  But I still haven't seen the movie yet.

And no I am not from Russia.

I'm Scotch-Irish.

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You know, TommyJames, I'm really mad at myself for not mentioning Resolute.  I'm not even a G.I. Joe fan, but I thought that miniseries was just awesome.  One of the very few remakes that's worth while (though that's probably because it was remade for TV instead of theaters... but that's another podcast).

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From what I understand, the biggest remake of the year was the Ferngully remake.  Avatar.

The original Turtles incarnation of the comics was rather dark and violent.  The cartoon was an extremely watered down adaptation of the comics.  The first movie did a step toward the comics, then it went downhill from there.

The most recent TMNT was a continuation of the series not a remake I think.

I said it once, but I will say it again.  Indiana Jones did, and still does, require a great amount of willing suspension of disbelief.  Do I think that Crystal Skull was the best Indy flick?  No, but I thoroughly enjoyed it, even the nuking of the fridge.

Lawrence Fishburne for Panthro.  As much as I would like to see SLJ do it, Fishburne is a better fit to the character's attitudes.

What about the Wiz?  That was a remake of The Wizard of Oz.

There were sections of RoboCop that were kind of campy.  If they cut out that stuff, it could be really great.

Zummy should be Doc Brown, Christopher Lloyd.

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I feel that Resolute captured what was cool about the original series and adapted it to it's now adult audience.

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BTW

I think the A-Team looks like a fun ride AND I actually want to see it.

Yeah, I wanted to see Mr T in it, too, but in retrospect, putting new actors around him would have made for a terrible movie.  Besides, even if the other two were interested in doing it, you would still have to replace George Peppard and that is just impossible.

I just hope people don't bitch about it being too campy.  The series was pretty campy in it's own right.

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The only reason people are remaking so many movies nowadays is that we've run out of ideas.

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Christopher Lloyd as Zummi... brilliant!  I'd watch that.

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@kaboomie, Dude, the film industry has been out of ideas for awhile.

It's, like most industries, has to be fed, fed with dollars. The film industry keeps  alot of people employed, and to keep those people working so they can feed their families and such the yhave to turn out crap they know will sell.

I know this sounds like an excuse, but it's an excuse every entertainment field uses, even video games, which is starting to sink down the drain from big budget games that are getting out of control.

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 Im really surprised you guys didnt include the King Kong remake in your successful remakes section of the podcast. Its arguably the most successful remake of all time.

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i'm a bit suprise you didn't mention this (though this probably was done before it was announced), but how about the new Godzilla reboot that Legendary Picture is making?

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I've actually heard they want

I've actually heard they want to remake Caddyshack. With how bad the 2nd movie was and how EPIC the first Caddyshack was I think that would be an instant Fail.

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