~sigh~ I only have one thing to say about this.

No.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Idiots will still buy it. I haven't bought anything by this asshole since the original Trilogy on VHS.

...

....You know, I realize it's pointless to ask 'WHY??' but you can't help it anyway....Just....Eerrggghhh....One thing I did notice also  is that the sound effects are off in the Vader video. They don't match up in timing as they did in other prints. Yep, I've seen the movie enough times to notice this! >D The Emperor's line is fine, and fits perfectly with his mouth movements, but the sound effects timing is off. I'm not sure if that has something to do with the video transfer when this person posted it, or if....the movie was just edited like that....If so....then that's a really weird...uh, 'change'?

I got the first release on DVD, then called it quits.

I've been calling for Lucas' head on a pike since the early part of the last decade.

http://bluray.ign.com/articles/119/1191850p1.html

No doubt, this will surprise no one, but it's not reassuring either way. This comes from Matthew Wood from Skywalker Sound (and who also does the voice of Grievous): "Every time we watch the movies he's got something he wants to change. And so there's obviously changes done to the films, visually as well as audio-wise. So there are some changes in the Blu-ray version that you'll have to find. [Laughs] That's always fun. It's funny because we meticulously put it all together like, 'Here's where it was.' And then he'll update it."

Get this, as well: "According to Wood, some of the lines were even re-recorded. 'Just little comments here and there that were production lines that might not have been used or changes. But they're all very subtle little things that people will find.'"

...Sigh....Again, this will surprise no one, no....Even so...You know, why doesn't Lucas just get it over with, and completely redux the movies all over again from square one? Clearly, he's never going to stop doing this as long as he's alive, because he hates the originals so much, and will absolutely not let them rest. He said in the past he doesn't want his life to be Star Wars, but well, it is. No, I absolutely do not want him to just redux the original trilogy. Again though, it just makes you wonder, if he really is so obsessed with changing everything he hates, and he continues to want so much changed, then why not just do that and get it over with already?

Not that I believe even that would totally satisfy him for the rest of his life, no....

Proof that you should keep/should of kept your VCR and not re-buy the same movies.

The more I read about this, the more I want to take a briefcase nuke to Skywalker Ranch. And I'm anti Second Amendment.

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2011/09/george-lucass-1988-speech-about-prese...

"People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians." -George Lucas, 1988

Just goes to show you that Lucas is indeed not the person he once was, and is just....going, or has gone, senile, and possibly insane.

Oooooh shiny Star Wars box!  Must buy ASAP 

The only movie involving Lucas that needs to be made is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BMgegut3UM

I would watch the hell out of this.

You know...I don't know why his meddling irritates me so much...

Because there was absolutely nothing wrong with the originals.

The only changes I can agree with in the originals were the mechanical ones. Glossing out the Vaseline on the lens in the landspeeder scene, for instance.

I don't mind two of those changes such as replacing that puppet yoda from TPM, and Ewoks blinking (never noticed anyways).

The double No, NOOOOO, sounds fake, I don't know whats  going on with Lucas, why he doesn't listen to the fans that care about and buy those products?

I was hesitant to buy the BluRays at first, but this is definitely what I needed to hear to not buy it at launch, I might get it if ever drops to less than $40.

I hope there's a new ECHO Screen about this, also a good topic to discuss will be revisions to existing movies.

The main thing that truly bothers me about Lucas's altering is the fact he's trying to change the past; his goal is clearly to just erase the original versions, and pretend they never happened. He wants to change history; he wants people to forget about the original cuts, and doesn't seem to understand why fans won't. He doesn't seem to understand that most fans don't feel the same way he does about the original cuts. He wants his 'updated' cuts to be the versions that are remembered and celebrated, not the originals, and he just doesn't understand (or care) why most fans don't seem to agree. Our only hope will be current generations showing their children the originals, and hopefully those children will do the same for their future children, and so on.

I also can't help but find it baffling from an artisitic standpoint; Lucas is so obsessed with the past and what he was not able to do with these at the time, and just can't accept it. Hence, he wants to change history, and it seems he wants to make it look like he was able to do these things in the past, to, what, calm his soul? That's bothersome...Thus, he has to keep going back and changing them with each new release. What other filmmaker/artistic person does this? Most people in the arts just tend to accept the past and move forward with their abilities and leave the past as it is. I realize there are exceptions, but still, no one does this the way Lucas does, that I can think of. As an artistic person myself, I don't want to spend my life going back over my old work and re-doing all of it, or parts of them. While I understand temptations to do so sometimes, I think my time would be best spent elsewhere. Despite what he thinks, Lucas has really just not moved forward as a filmmaker; much to learn, he still has...

Also, and as has been pointed out already, the changes are also just not necessary. They don't add anything real to the movies.  In the new changes, ugh...Darth Vader's "NOOOOOO!" actually takes something away from the movie. Actually, I think a lot of fans in general think Lucas's changes detract from the movies,  even though they're additions. That sounds like a paradox, and it....probably is. While I admit some things are sort of neat, like the X-Wing and TIE-Fighter dogfights in ANH, again, they're not necessary, and they just fulfill Lucas's delusion. If Lucas is going to suffer delusions, fine, but the fans should not have to pay for it, figuratively or literally.

I'm going to admit something; there is one change Lucas did make that I thought was a definite, definite improvement, and really did make the movie better; the end music in Return of the Jedi. The original....'song'....is just bad. It's dreadful. I always thought it was weird, and silly, even when I was a kid. In the Special Edition, it was replaced with music only and well...it's great! My friends and I who saw it said, 'Hey, they replaced it with Wild Arms music!' >D I definitely feel the track is a much better ending for the original trilogy.

To answer your question, Airblade, why doesn't Lucas " listen to the fans that care about and buy those products?"- because he honestly doesn't care, and doesn't have to. That's the simplest answer. I think I mentioned this elsewhere, but I recall once someone from Lucasfilm (but not Lucas himself) responded to fan demand for the original cuts not being re-released by saying "this is not a democracy." What the Hell kind of thing is that to say to fans?? Whether it's technically true or not, that's not the thing to say to fans, and it just goes to show you that they don't care, and don't have to. Now yes, eventually they were re-released on disc, although I think Lucas was very reluctant to do that. I think he intended for there to only be one DVD release, in 2004, you know, unless he felt like making even more changes. I wouldn't plan on this happening again though, so if you don't have copies of them yet, buy the DVD release right now that has them on it.

What fans  really want, I think, are the originals digitally-remastered, but no, we're not given that choice. We should at least have the choice. Some people have stated the obvious already; 'if you don't want it, don't buy it." Thank you; as if I couldn't figure that out for myself. It just makes fans wish things were different, and that they should be different. Lucas just doesn't care.  I do have copies of the originals, and well, I don't know, I may not buy other copies again for the rest of my life.

He's just a troll. He's in it for the lulz.

Maybe one day we'll have the originals.

I'll stick to the Revisited versions of StarWars made by Adi-Wan, they're awesome, exactly what fans want with no George Lucas Bullshit.

You should give that version a chance.

http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-o...

For those that are curious, DVD Active has an article up about all, or most of the general, changes made to the movies. This is an updated article that was made first for the 2004 release, but was recently updated for the BR release. It compares shots from the originals, Special Editions, 2004 release, and the BR now.  So...if you want to see the other....pointless things that were done....

There aren't too many, it seems, but again, the changes that were made are still mostly unnecessary. For example, in RotJ, during the 'Sleepy-Time-at-Jabba's' scene, just before Luke enters, a random dug (Sebulba's species) was added, who walks by. What...does that add to the scene? Nothing. It's not a 'big deal', but again, it's unnecessary. Also in RotJ, 3PO and R2 were....shrunk to make the door into Jabba's seem a lot bigger. However, once they enter the compound, the door is clearly the original size. By definition, that change made itself officially pointless and useless in the very next scene. Ugh... So once again, continuity was just made worse because it wasn't kept all throughout.

A similar, and pointless, thing was added to ANH; when R2 hides in the alcove from the Tusken Raiders, they added....CGI rocks around him. When R2 leaves the hole, the rocks are not there. Sigh...

According to the article, some things that do make sense to me were things like color correction, and once in a while, lightsaber correction, but even that isn't consistent througout...

Of course, the worse change is still the new 'NOOOOOOOOO!'

I remember reading those articles when they came, and since the I was a subscriber of dvdactive. I was glad yesterday when I saw that he updated the article.

You know what would be nice?

And given the substantial capacity of BR discs I don't see this as unreasonable on unfeasable:

Offer viewing versions: Classic / Remastered / BR Collector edition.

God damn it.

Christ, I have the RHPS collectors edition and it offers US and UK releases and that's on DVD!

With the way dvd / br does up it's titles and chapters it's not that hard to have it done up like this:

Chapter 11: Gang enters the bar at Mos Eisley
Chapter 12 C: Han Shoots first
Chapter 12 R: What the Fuck! Han supposed to shoot first!
Chapter 12 BRC: GOD DAMN YOU LUCAS! YOU DIE! YOU DIE AND YOU GO TO HELL!
Chapter 13 They're getting ready to board etc...

Point being, you wouldn't even have to have 3 complete versions of the film, just 2 (3) versions of the affected chapters within a given movie.

Hell with the way BR is you could probably even do a mix and match of the versions, though I don't know why you'd want to. 

Really, Lucas Arts can't be oblivious to the fan outrage, it just isn't possible. They just can't. Something like this would appease everyone I think.

That's just it though; fans like us understand these simple things and find them perfectly reasonable! George Lucas, however, does not, and I guess never will.

You know, I just saw this recently, but what's funny is Steven Spielberg said earlier this year he honestly regrets his alterations to E.T., and vows not to do it again! He said in part, "At this point right now I think letting movies exist in the era, with all the flaws and with all of the flourishes, is a wonderful way to mark time and mark history."

If only Lucas would realize the same thing....But he never will...I think a primary reason is because first of all, despite what he thinks of himself, Lucas is of course, not a genius or anything. Secondly, Spielberg has worked consistently making movies for many, many years; Lucas has not. He really didn't make anything from 1983-1996 or 1997, whenever they started filming TPM. He was involved with another Indiana Jones movie in that time period, but otherwise...he didn't really do anything. After RotS, he was involved once again in just another Indiana Jones movie, and well, he didn't make any other movies himself,and now he's making his life Star Wars in various ways, even though he said he didn't want his life to be that. That's fine if that's what he wants to do, other than the further screwing up of the original trilogy...My point is, Spielberg has no doubt gained insight, and I'd say wisdom, that Lucas never did, despite what he thinks of himself. I suspect another part of it though is just Lucas has genuine insecurity about his work that Spielberg clearly doesn't have about his own. From an artistic standpoint, I understand that to a point, but you do eventually just....have to let things go and let them be as they are and were. Lucas is unwilling to do that, and as I've said before, is determined to alter history.

Sigh...

http://www.geekforcefive.com/blog/article/no_digital_corrections_on_jaws...

The worst part is.. ~sigh~ I'm probably going to get this collection.

I don't have a vhs copy of the original, I only have the already buchered later DVD copies.

This way I could get the complete series in some form.

Actually, you can still get the originals on DVD, but probably not for much longer, I'd imagine- http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Star+Wars+Trilogy+[6+Discs]+-+Widescreen+AC3+Dolby+Thx+-+DVD/9090663.p?id=1906774&skuId=9090663&st=star%20wars&lp=1&cp=1

Amazon doesn't have new copies anymore, but it's still possible to get them. I would strongly suggest getting this set instead of the BR, so that you have original cuts!

Steven Spielberg said when he was in pre-production for Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Gods, which eventually became Crystal Skull, he wanted to shoot it exactly the same way he shot the first three. However, that asshack George Lucas wouldn't let him. Not only wouldn't let him, but put him over a barrel not to. Which is why we ended up with Lewis Stevens swinging with monkeys.

However, because Spielberg's contract with Paramount calls for five Indy movies, the next one, he has said, will be shot the old way. Harrison Ford has already divulged it will have to do with the mummy of Ghengis Khan.

From what I understand Shirow, all the DVD versions were tainted in some fashion, the only things left unscathed were VHS / Laserdisc.

I have the 'original' 3 on DVD but they are (of course) tainted by Darth Lucas.

The product you linked shows the following in its description of the chapters:

20. The Cantina [3:21] 
21. Han Solo [1:02] 
22. Cornered by Greedo [1:16] 
23. Death Star Destination [2:01] 
24. Jabba the Hutt [2:11] 
25. The Millennium Falcon [1:10] 

I had three normal copies on VHS. Then I got the three bastardized VHS versions. My mother realized I had two sets of the same movies and sold the normal copies at a yard sale.

Well, you're right and wrong!  here's the thing; the first DVD release in 2004, that came in a boxed set, had more alterations, yes. However, they did release later a second set of the movies, each individually, then later in its own set, as in the link I set above,  that contained both the 2004 cut and the original cuts! Basically, none of the movies really have any special features, (although not that the 2004 set had...a lot of extra stuff to begin with...) except the commentary as added from the 2004 set, and the second disc of each movie contains nothing but the original cut.

I'd also like to point out that Best Buy's specifications for videos are often shitty or just incomplete. -__- So while it is true that yes, it does contain the 2004 cut, it also contains the originals! Or again, you can also buy them individually, as well. If you don't have this set, I definitely suggest getting it before it goes extinct, and you're left with nothing but scalper prices.

If you want the unaltered, HD Star Wars experience, buy it on laser disc...

I wish I was joking...

...yeah, me, too. D:

But the DVD set I mentioned would work, too. :P

Oh, George...

Meh. I'll probably end up buying it anyway. I currently don't own a copy of any of the Star Wars movies. Sure, Lucas is a total asshat, but right now, I'm over his barrel.

The end of Return of the Jedi ... "No.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

Totally Lame!

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/21877/-star-wars-blu-ray-set-breaks-records

The BR set has reportedly broken sales records.

See, folks, this is why Lucas doesn't care what fans think; because he doesn't have to. No matter what he keeps doing to the movies, more than enough people will still buy it, and he will still get rich off of it.

The truth really hurts....

This doesn't mean you shouldn't still keep the word out there about why his continuous changes are not 'superior' to the originals, and that you shouldn't still hold on to the originals for future generations. It just....will continue to sting as long as he keeps doing this...

When Jedi was first released my Dad took me to see it the first showing of its opening in our town. I got to skip school, and we stood in line for like 3 hours. At the climax where Vader turns on the Emperor and saves Luke, the entire theater stood up and cheered. I thought by this point that nothing done to the franchise could be worse than Jar Jar Binks and the Attack of the Killer Klones from Outer Space. I hate you George Lucas.